Began instructing pool in 1945. I'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. Just for you, here is my answers to your queries. Cherished mother of. . . None of them were related to math and geometry. . Teach professionals, very advanced players, and road money players. Teach professionals, very advanced players, and road money players. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. This is Low500 at N. #1. You can learn it by calling Hal. He has posted his phone number -- the new one in Pennsylvania (I think). S. I'm a completely new player. He got it. Hey everyone! After receiving numerous request to do a video on the Center-To-Edge (CTE) aiming system, I studied it for about week. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. this particular HAL HOULE aiming system. What is the Supposed Phenomenon of Center to Edge Aiming? This thread is an attempt to garner for ALL concerned. By: Search Advanced search…Secret Aiming Systems ™ Coach (THE designated successor to Hal Houle, inventor of many of the Aiming Systems) Professor: Billiard University; Certified PAT ™ Examiner (the Playing Ability Test) Founder: Elephant Balls, Ltd. ) For this column I've also spoken to BCA instructor Tom Simpson, who graciously put me in contact with Houle. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. The aiming forum was created to a large part for PJ. The Sport Palace was a unique place for sure. I commented that, from my recollection, Hal Houle was a decent guy and had always been forthcoming in our prior discussions. Apr 24, 2017 #98 cookie man said: I got immediate results from CTE. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. I find it interesting that a guy like svb who started playing pool when he probably was 5 or so and i think i herd him say he played in a league at 9 in a. SHISHKABOB is similar to CTE in that there are 3 spots to aim at like CTE. "Your" system exists because of the efforts of Hal Houle to bring the concept of ball to ball objective aiming systems into mainstream pool instruction. . Takes his three angles and makes aiming easier to teach. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. No personal. There are some DVDs on the subject. That's going to change. Dave has CTE on his web-site, also Hal Houle's 3-angle system. . There are players that swear by them, and just as many that say they don't work. Just reading the 1st chapter brings back so many memories of my teachings with Hal. By: Search Advanced search…I'm grateful for you Stan and for Hal houle. By: Search Advanced search…Some of the personalities go back 15 years or more where we had the same disagreements about Hal Houle's "3 angles" fractional system on RSB. He has posted his phone number -- the new one in Pennsylvania (I think). Thankfully, Hal sent a private email inviting me His credentials are very impressive, with Pro player being one of his accomplishments. Mr. hal houle. Search titles only. Thank you thank you thank you. most of philipeno player are using Busty. Here's another juicy secret I call Pivot Aim, used by Johnny Archer and Efren Reyes, and taught by me, Hal Houle and others to an elite few before this article. The main reason why CTE is COMPLETE BULLSHIT (and, I’m sure, made up as somebody’s joke to show how dumb people are), is that there’s no discussion in it. 11, I show that these aims are equivalent to 3/4-, 1/2-, and 1/4-ball-hits and the 15- and 45° angles are not exact. Anybody know when that will be?I believe it's correct to say you don't have to "consciously" know where the pocket is, but unconsciously you do. . They could care less about 90/90 or the SEE System. None of them were related to math and geometry. If anybody isn't convinced about their motivations at this point spanning almost 2 decades, they either have blinders on or are a part of the Johnson/Figueroa gang. The fact is that all systems which work will end up with the player in the SAME place which is lined up correctly. From what I know of the Hal Houle point and pivot system, it has to do with actually pivoting the cue itself slightly. S. Joey: But what is your system to aim? Efren: I aim for pocket. hang in. Fez was also very good friends with Ralph Greenleaf who was also traveling the country with financially backed by. I will use every comment by you that fits that goal and there are many. Yes, I aim to put ball in pocket. Hal Houle Point and Pivot System. Too bad and bullshit if that's the mindset. S. you have nothing to lose. By: Search Advanced search…Instruction & Ask the pros. How does Hal Houle’s three-angle system work? Hal Houles’ 3-angle system is a type of fractional-ball aiming system. He retired from Ottawa Hills Memorial Park after over 20 years as an "Underground Condominium Salesman. "Hal" Houle, age 82, passed away on May 29, 2014. The Sailor's aiming system, which I detail in my book, is to me the only accurate way to aim at a pool ball. Houle, speaking of CTE's primary 3 aiming points (15, 30, 45 deg, aka 1/4b fractions): "Your only requirement is to recognize whether your shot is a 15, 30, or 45° angle. . The man genuinely wanted to share his knowledge with as many people as he could and did it for free. To the "Putdown Posse", Mr. Stan reveals how the 30 perception was "king" with Hal Houle. and others who teach these things their due. Very minimal. This is an EXACT aim. What's this fixation with aiming? It's a personal thing. Was great to hear his stories. By: Search Advanced search…Hal houle is the creator of this system. I found you to have searched out from Hal Houle(my friend and mentor) along with several others and tried to combine their theories on aiming into one nice system of teaching aiming. Conversely I have shown aiming systems to some good players and had them give me a confused look and decide that they didn't want to bother with it EVEN IF they agreed that it might help them. He must have been up in his 80's; not sure. Cherished mother of David Morse, Kathleen (Mike) Morse, the late Sam Morse, the late Dean Morse, and the late Glen Morse. It has NEVER been enforced on those members who have free reign to say whatever they want negatively or disparagingly about Hal Houle, Stan Shuffett, CTE, Shishkabob, and students and usersJUST FINISHED reading mosconis autobiography for the tenth time. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. I have played around with CTE for ~ 2 years. CTE is a pre-shot routine that involves the use of the line from the center of the cue ball through the outside edge of the object ball (from the intended pocket. Think About It. Too many things didn't make sense to me so I moved on. 5 = 4. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. I'm told that Hal Houle recognises this and recommends the adjustment method diagrammed and described below. By: Search Advanced search…However, Hal Houle (there's that name again) also created a STICK AIMING SYSTEM that had nothing to do with CENTERS and EDGES. Efren: Oh, aim. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. I'm still confused on the exact steps of stepping the cueball. Search titles only. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. Hal Houle has many systems, so you start from a false premise. Aiming that point to the object ball's center or edge is a surprisingly good starting point. Once he showed me which bulb and where on the object ball, it magically went in the hole. Spent 9:30 to 4:30 at Stan's place yesterday. from Hal Houle: There are only 3 angles for any shot, on. I also reviewed newspaper clippings from The New York Times, and I've drawn a. It is not CTE but it IS a Hal Houle aiming system called SHISKABOB. By: Search Advanced search…HEY GUYS MY 2 CENTS the CTE devotees we know who you are EVERYONE ELSE. Harold G. If the graph below actually represents the variety of. I'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. Silver Member. I've met Hal a few times. Mary Lou Houle 04/11/1930 - 11/21/2022Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. Search titles only. we know that you and Hal were close. By: Search Advanced search…I really was hesitant to bring this up and face the wrath of khan if this has already been clearly explained but I can't find it so can someone please point. He contacted many people simply to give them a tip on aiming, the stroke, or other subjects. B. He said Hal Houle wants to meet you today. By: Search Advanced search…In your best interpretation of a professional pool player or professional instructor, PLEASE DEFINE FEEL IN AIMING. Yes. . as long as the thread stays alive, and you post. E. 3 angles for all shots, on any size pool table, including snooker & bar tables. I just. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. My name is Hal Houle. . . From the very first ball i. My schedule for lessons is resuming as usual and all courses will reflect the newly redefined CTE/PRO ONE Aiming System. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. I would telephone every few months checking in with him or he would call me and we would talk. as was Hal's in "defining" "backhand english" as a method to return to center ball. Hal Houle learned that through CTE a player can quickly tap into the purity of aiming. Hal Houle had ways of explaining and doing it and we definitely know where you're coming from when his name is mentioned. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. Sep 17, 2014 #11The National Billiard Academy is the only school authorized to teach the specialized Aiming Systems of Hal Houle. His credentials are very impressive, with Pro player being one of his accomplishments. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. the method fits the definition. I use it more in practice and do not focus on the pivot when I play. I then listened to them for several more hours while on my route as a mailman today so I could really let it sink into my subconscious. Dec 25, 2014 #7 there is no way to calculate such a thing. Condolences to his wife and family. I'm told that Hal Houle recognises this and recommends the. FYI, I just updated my online glossary of pool and billiards terms and phrases. Hal was a veteran of the U. I'm going to explain how to shoot this shot into the upper right corner pocket using real CTE. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. . Here is a description of an early version of CTE taught by Hal Houle: For a “thick hit” (a small cut angle, less than about 15°) to the left: Align the cue. Once he showed me which bulb and where on the object ball, it magically went in the hole. He has a beautiful 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond table and light. I think asking someone about contact points would be like asking them the answer to x + y = 4. Then carried it over to here when this site was put. There are literally a zillion possible shots on a 5,000 square inch playing surface. Search titles only. not so good, sorry. I decided last winter to turn myself into an Open caliber. He showed me quite a bit about pool. I think asking someone about contact points would be like asking them the answer to x + y = 4. There are a lot of 'instructors' selling players on various ideas they claim are magic bullets. I just started. Harold G. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. . It is absolutely connected. Also, now in effect, all. i teach professional aiming systems. Was great to hear his stories. Hal Houle was a great man that changed the way I see the game of pool. These were all results of his own thought experiments and practical applications on the table. . Hal Houle was without a doubt the greatest LATERAL THINKER in history when it came to POOL AIMING SYSTEMS! He developed over 20 aiming systems for pool and each one was way OUTSIDE THE BOX VISUALLY and in PERFORMANCE. Hal Houle changed my life. . To Freddie Agnir and others for spending time on the table showing what you learned from Hal and being willing to help. JOEY AGUZIN Feb 17, 2003, 1:13:44 PM to Well, I haven't confirmed this rumor but have it on good authority that a well know and RESPECTED Master BCA instructor will be. I realized. it's magic. as long as the thread stays alive, and you post. But in my opinion if it wasn't for Hal there wouldn't be CTE. Instruction & Ask the pros. Army and was stationed in Germany during the Korean Conflict. I am aiming base on the hal houle system but using the edge of shaft to aiming point. Hal was a veteran of the U. Problem is, he had to stand there and correct me on every shot because I just didn't get it. Gold Member. JoeyA, Always glad to share my knowledge with those who sincerely want to learn the game. Barbara was born in Waterbury and was the. Note: I'm not saying that Hal came up with the light theory. knows that I'm a proponent of Hal Houle. Yes. ”. Hal Houle . . According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. Let me know which one was your favorite in the comments! I’m really looking forward to making more micro two piece hauls with my friends so if you liked this one make sure to let me know :) My favorite Bikini from this haul was the last one! Check out Dare and Codee!That was Hal Houle's claim - but it actually takes about 50 different cut angles just to make a spot shot into a 4. Stan Shuffett entered the picture a week ago or so and invited to teach me his CTE/Pro One Aiming System. There is no one on the planet who does not use an aiming system - all pool players started out using a system. Still doing it. Still doing it. Stan Shuffett. hal houle. you have nothing to lose. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. (edited December 26th, Amazon ended the free promotion and the book is now $1. This method may not be for everyone, as it takes an analytical mind to wrap your head around. I'll never be a good player, but I try all the time to improve. By: Search Advanced search…23 years ago Hal Houle threw out a claim and teaser on an early internet group called Rec. 12,478. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. Search titles only. . M is a by-product of Hal Houle's teaching. . I don't care if I change your mind. 5 years ago. cte doubters and all the other ways to make a ball WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE to. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. It was posted here about 6. But, sorry to disappoint because IT DOES WORK. Hal Houle figured it out over 70 years ago. this is what makes systems work is the. Most would say 2 + 2 = 4, others 1 + 3 = 4, 3 + 1 = 4 or 1. Connie and I are beyond pleased! I left it all on the table: 38. hal houle. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. The black lines represent the Center-to-Edge aim and the resultant undercutting that would result. . . from Hal Houle: There are only 3 angles for any shot, on any size table. he did the same thing to hal houle. Hal Houle knew Greenleaf and probably Fez. However Hal Houle is AWESOME and so is Ron Vitello. As most of you know, Hal was known for being devious in explaining CTE and that created a lot of misunderstanding about it. When these methods are used the feel in aiming is reduced to almost zero. Without having tried this method on the table I want to acknowledge the spirit of innovation that exists that motivates players to run with concept. Hal Hale was an American basketball player and coach. If you can run all 15, more power to you. In 2002 I got a phone call from Bob Johnson, one of my Denver, Colorado pool buddies. SHISHKABOB is similar to CTE in that there are 3 spots to aim at like CTE. Whenever someone asks me how long I’ve been playing, I always say, "Since I met Hal. Houle's aiming system to his students in the future. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. A. Hal Houle was a very unique individual! Hal was intelligent, had a great wit and lived a long, varied and interesting life. The main reason why CTE is COMPLETE BULLSHIT (and, I’m sure, made up as somebody’s joke to show how dumb people are), is that there’s no discussion in it. It has NO 7 fractions along the face of the OB. From. Therefore a cue ball has 360 ticks and an object ball has 360 ticks at their respective circumferences. If there were 10. I've been reading this board faithfully for nearly a decade, yet I've never heard mention of Ralph Greenleaf being a drunk. Vahmurka. It was what got his mind thinking about what we see on pool balls and how CTE came to be. People like Hal Houle and Ron Vitello and Gene are always going to have negative people trying to tear. Silver Member. Was great to hear his stories. " Hal's greatest joy was. Hale played high school basketball at Jordan High School in Sandy, Utah from 1960 to 1962 and won a state championship. Why are you so obsessed with me, PJ?RIP Mr Houle Dave. The Sport Palace was a unique place for sure. “When you’re one step ahead of the crowd you’re a genius. I didnt locate the photo until the first editions were already printed. The methods that Hal Houle teaches are the most exact and precise ways to aim that I have ever seen. He has a beautiful 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond table and light. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. Basically the system is about a limited number of aiming points Full Ball hit 3/4 Ball hit (approx 15 degrees) 1/2 Ball hit (approx 30 degrees) 1/4 Ball hit (approx 45 degrees) And the Thin Hit Do a search for Hal Houle for. And I would have continued to skip them if Hal Houle hadn't asked me to meet him in Denver and graciously donated some of his time to teach me some of methods. I know Hal Houle there are only 3 or 4 shots in pool. S. Fortunately some of his writings have survived his life, brought to you by the internet. . By: Search Advanced search…Some of the personalities go back 15 years or more where we had the same disagreements about Hal Houle's "3 angles" fractional system on RSB. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. I am so glad Hal is finally starting to get some if the respect he do rightfully deserves. I have been playing pool since I was seven, shining shoes in bars, I'm 63. . HOULEHarold G. Anybody know?dunno if the user named "halhoule" is the real thing, but he seems to be spamming this 'efren reyes aiming system' stuff + a phone number to people. Aiming ConversationAs per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. How does this work. Stan has worked for years on developing CTE/Pro One and that is. According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. Glad you had a chance to see a real pool room. Examples include Hal Houle’s 3angle system- , CTE, and SAM. go! the ones i seen confused me, im making big leaps in my pool game this yr, so why not take it further if i can and actually learn something lolI thought I'd throw out a little check I use to very accurately find A or C on the OB, especially the thin ones. They were posted in 2017 and remain today. My question is greenleaf won all his championships on a five by ten and mosconis. . Using your attacks to further the reach of CTE is merely a way to turn your evil. It can't get any more center pocket than that. He welcomes inquiries and does not charge for his advice. Joey: You know, an aiming system where you aim from the center of the cue ball to the edge of the object ball and then pivot and. And by honest try, I mean give it at least 10 tries, hopefully. sacman AzB Silver Member. A and C are the object ball quarters. CTE is a pre-shot routine that involves the use of the line from the center of the cue ball through the outside edge of the object ball (from the intended pocket. May 1, 2023 #254 Dan White said: I think CTE discussion is more interesting that what color chalk do you use or which cue maker screwed somebody over this week, lol. (dont worry im not bragging, i still miss cuts like its no ones buisness) The reason for this is early on, someone told me if the shot is straight in. EXACTLY WHAT is the Supposed Phenomenon for Center to Edge 'Aiming'. We located 1 sex offender matching the name "Paul Houle" in the US. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. To read the pool playing tutorial for the Hal Houle Point and Pivot System, click the link to go on to the full pool playing tips article. Ron Vitello also teaches one that is dubbed 90/90 which is also incredibly precise and accurate. What the old gent said to me is pretty much what Terry is saying in his video. Hals's version started with an "inside cue tip" placement on the CB aiming to the same three spots on the OB as this guy and then pivoting back to center. Hal was not a great teacher, and did not really understand how or why most of the systems worked. Hal called it his three angle document. Jul 15, 2008 #8 Bval Use The Aiming System That Efren Reyes Uses. Oct 12, 2022 #56 phreaticus said:A CTE/PRO ONE video is coming! The video will present the exact visual nature of CTE. you have nothing to lose. Koop - it works, I'm just not smart enough to grasp itOn the other hand, in honor of Hal Houle I can also say there is only one shot on a pool table! Hu Click to expand. Basic aiming systems Wondering if anyone has a story involving Hal Mix (RIP). He truly was one of a kind who made pool his lifetime achievement in so many ways. None of them were related to math and geometry. Aiming ConversationThanks to another member for sending a PM to me with this system he found on the internet called "Splitting The Difference". JB Cases Silver Member. I am aiming base on the hal houle system but using the edge of shaft to aiming point. Also, now in effect, all. I will use every comment by you that fits that goal and there are many. . He has many system so make sure it is the wright one before you try to make a joke out of him. Pool lost a pioneer. . If you look at most shots they can be grouped into one of these three angles in a general sense. If there were 10. I personally enjoyed his stories of his own personal life the most and called him many times just to. If you and I were on a table for me to show you, you'd easily agree. . You have to understand this was back in the day of land lines, 411, and telephone directories and if you were listed anyone could get your phone number. (Houle's memory is somewhat hazy on the point. As per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. Hal Houle, during his research with aiming came to understand that the spheres we use for playing pool have 360 ticks on their circumferences. He was always experimenting with aiming systems and knowledge he acquired over the years from. #1. Search titles only. S. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. Jan 20, 2013 #63 Patrick Johnson said:I will be at Q-masters on the final Saturday of the US Open. I have played around with CTE for ~ 2 years. If you, as a pool enthusiast and player are interested in improving your game by becoming proficient with CTE (Center To Edge) Aiming, it won't be here. WATERTOWN – Barbara Houle passed into the loving arms of God in the early morning hours of July 30, 2023. It also had absolutely nothing to do with CONTACT POINTS. It has NO 7 fractions along the face of the OB. #2. I have been shooting pool off and on for about 25 years, so if I am using one, I would have to assume it is the ghost ball, but I cannot tell. By: Search Advanced search…I'm going to explain how to shoot this shot into the upper right corner pocket using real CTE. But how to do that when we're at home or work doing less important things? Just fire up Virtual Pool 3 on your desktop, aim any shot, then turn the. . I like Mike's method in actual games, makes things much easier, no thinking or guessing. IT WAS ILLOGICAL AND STILL IS TO MANY As a young man Hal Houle traveled around the country with Greenleaf as they made their way through one pool room after another with Hal doing his best to keep Greenleaf off the booze until they at least. Most would say 2 + 2 = 4, others 1 + 3 = 4, 3 + 1 = 4 or 1. Just very different ways of seeing the two balls,. Harold Houle, now 85, said the time he spent with Greenleaf came during the late 1940s, or possibly in 1950. I personally used it for several years before Hal taught me a version of CTE. I use Hal Houle's "3 aim line" method, which I use CTE as a double check to see if I'm aligned right. Hal said he could probably teach me his aiming system in 15 minutes. Much to what I assume will be the chagrin of the vocal CTE guys, Hal Houle himself said this in his infamous original 3-angle document. To zero in on A or C, I simply line up the edge of the cueball to B first, as this is a very. “Innovator” might be a better descriptor for Hal. Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. See this image: The pivot point is the pink dot on the cue. . Well beyond the life of the lemming tribe. Guess the system.